Arab Women Tells Her "Truth" about Islam

[Onyiiboy]

I didn't agree with everything she was saying, but she does have a point:

http://www.noob.us/miscellaneous/ara...eak-the-truth/

[shayo4real]

i saw this and yes on a lot of points she is right...a lot of this stuff is just that some people are so primitive and irrational......along with faith i belief that God as provided us with rationality and a lot of so called "funadamentalist" are missing this....When one reads the Quran, you read it with faith but also with knowlege and God given reason.I really agree with her on many points, especially when she says that she beilves in others right to belive in the supernatural but that does not impose her from not beliefing..vice verca in a way...

[renegade]

She is stupd
cuz the west has No civilization. No democracy, is an opressor too, is not modern, is just as barbaric. So even if the fanatics are barbaric, her contrasting it as she did shows she is an ignorant ass wipe.

She doesnt recognize that there is greater condemnaton and more horrific words in western Bibles and western nations constitutions.

Her exemplifying the west which is more barbaric, discriminates against women more, turn them into diseased heart wrecked lonely societal toys, and degrades, rapes and kills them more than any Nation and era in human history.

Her exemplifying the west that has murdered more people, remember the WWII was based by, caused by and fought within the western world and killed more humans than any of the moslems over time combined. All genocides by the west, WWI, etc are the greatest level of primitive barbarism, yet she doesnt realize this.

She is hurt, her husband didnt give her dick well, and I feel her pain, but she shouldnt have been allowed as a voice/on TV cuz she is absolutely ignorant of the messages Prophet Mohammed brought, what Islam stands for and who is the most barbaric on Earth in earths history, the west, christianity and Judaism, from Emperor Constantine the head of Christianity who killed 1 million Christians, through the Crusades, christians who killed millions of Christians, moslems and all else, thru Popes who ordered anyone who says bad about christianity is a 'heretic', and killed protestants, moslems and all else, thru christian colonizers who came to Africa, killed and stole blacks away, thru Christians who came and wiped away Indians from america, thru Christians and Jews who wiped palestinians out of their land, thru Christians who wiped south Safricans off their land, thru GWBush, supported by evangelical Christians in his genocidal crusader wars that have killed over a million moslems. United states a nation built on war that has fought 110 wars in the last 111 years!

She is hateful and totally ignorant cuz her husband didnt treat her right, cuz she was so bitchy, that she fails to see a few mis-users and mis-interpreters of Islam, doesnt mean the beautiful faith that saved christians during their persecution by evil christians, and so saved the christianity that re-flourished on Earth today, is because Islam in truth has laws for allowing the best modern inter-relationship of humans, protection of faiths, health and the protection of all human, women, children and sexual rights, better than any institution that exists or ever existed, as is. A faith that ever remains modern and upto the challenges of the times.

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Originally Posted by shayo4real

i saw this and yes on a lot of points she is right...a lot of this stuff is just that some people are so primitive and irrational......along with faith i belief that God as provided us with rationality and a lot of so called "funadamentalist" are missing this....When one reads the Quran, you read it with faith but also with knowlege and God given reason.I really agree with her on many points, especially when she says that she beilves in others right to belive in the supernatural but that does not impose her from not beliefing..vice verca in a way...

Please tell me 1 single point where she is right. Let's do this, one point at a time. And I will prove to u here with western references, and proof from western sources (Like CNN, encyclopedias, University releases etc) that propaganda aside, she is wrong, ignorant and a lier, according to western research and actual opinion.

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She is so daft. Because she thinks 'christian' or 'Jew' means unbeliever. Wheras in all moslem countries, even those after the west, there are christians and Jews living there and no one has gone to wipe them out anymore than white aMericans wipe out Niggers. Iran for instance has the largest Jewish population in the Middle East, outside Israel, living in their country, and the 24th largest population of jews in the entire world Stats on World Jews. Idiots like her do not know this.

Unbeliever that deserves fighting is what Bush in his own faith similarly refers to with the term- 'axis of evil'. But she is too daft to know. Unbeliever means- enemy of God and man. Leaders who cause genocides, leaders who lead for instance to the loss of 1 million Iraqi lives, and 100 thousand US lives lost or crippled, because of Oil. Are these people good? That is what unbeliever/infidel refers to. the real axis of evil, that she is too dumb to understand.

Someone should please come and show me a single true point she said:frustated I am having a manic fit.

[renegade]

Let's deal with this issue on women once and for all right here-

1. World Teen pregnancy

2. World Rape Statistics!

3. World Divorce statistics

4. World abortions

5. World drug-Amphetamine usage

6. Breast Cancer

So let me summarise the state of western women-

Highest teen pregnant and single parents, most ruined and led to cancer(eg Breast cancer promoted by abortions) by having the most abortions, most divorced, becoming lonely and abandoned widows with no social support (re-marriage possibility even sharing, less than 1%, while fags marry more men), most stoned on amphetamine and raped as a night cap.

That is a great life oh western women.

[Onyiiboy]

Originally Posted by renegade

Please tell me 1 single point where she is right. Let's do this, one point at a time. And I will prove to u here with western references, and proof from western sources (Like CNN, encyclopedias, University releases etc) that propaganda aside, she is wrong, ignorant and a lier, according to western research and actual opinion.

She is right that alot of followers of Islam still have a mentality from the Middle Ages

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Originally Posted by Onyiiboy

She is right that alot of followers of Islam still have a mentality from the Middle Ages

Thank you.
How? And what is modern mentality?

Let's analyse one of the current greatest differences between the Islamic world and the west today.

Homosexuality.

The west accepts it, while the Islamic world rejects it.
Which is ancient? Homosexuality which is justified with arguments that animals do it too, which is harmonious with aboriginal mythology of human-animal spirit mentality, is the most ancient practice. Isnt it? isnt the west going into homosexuality, their going backward into practices of Sodom and Roman times?

Second example-

Male Circumcision.

The west in so called modernity didnt prescribe it anymore, and accused moslems etc as practicing a useless old age brutal habit, which only in 2007 was learnt from research to be the most beneficial preventive methods against a modern acute illness',- HIV and cervical cancer. Reducing HIV transmission by 60%. AND IS NOW PRESCRIBED BY WHO.

So what is ancient/ Please elaborate?

Is it the use of stoning to kill, rather than electrocution?
Well medically electrocution is under the category of burns- Electric burning, so electrocution as is done in the west is actually the most ancient act of burning people to death. And chemical poisoning done in the west is venom poisoning of Egyptian and other most ancient times.

I can't go round and round. Please narrow it down. Pick the exact/a single act in Islam which is primitive.....

[Onyiiboy]

Originally Posted by renegade

Thank you.
How? And what is modern mentality?

Let's analyse one of the current greatest differences between the Islamic world and the west today.

Homosexuality.

The west accepts it, while the Islamic world rejects it.
Which is ancient? Homosexuality which is justified with arguments that animals do it too, which is harmonious with aboriginal mythology of human-animal spirit mentality, is the most ancient practice. Isnt it? isnt the west going into homosexuality, their going backward into practices of Sodom and Roman times?

Second example-

Male Circumcision.

The west in so called modernity didnt prescribe it anymore, and accused moslems etc as practicing a useless old age brutal habit, which only in 2007 was learnt from research to be the most beneficial preventive methods against a modern acute illness',- HIV and cervical cancer. Reducing HIV transmission by 60%. AND IS NOW PRESCRIBED BY WHO.

So what is ancient/ Please elaborate?

Is it the use of stoning to kill, rather than electrocution?
Well medically electrocution is under the category of burns- Electric burning, so electrocution as is done in the west is actually the most ancient act of burning people to death. And chemical poisoning done in the west is venom poisoning of Egyptian and other most ancient times.

I can't go round and round. Please narrow it down. Pick the exact/a single act in Islam which is primitive.....

I feel the same about the West as you do. I think that the Westerners are some of the most uncivilized people in history. However, I must admit that after a few centuries of being barbaric people, they were able to upgrade themselves in some type of way. I think one of the main issue that some folks have with Islam is the high number of fanatics that will kill innocent people because they feel disrespected.

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Originally Posted by Onyiiboy

I feel the same about the West as you do. I think that the Westerners are some of the most uncivilized people in history. However, I must admit that after a few centuries of being barbaric people, they were able to upgrade themselves in some type of way. I think one of the main issue that some folks have with Islam is the high number of fanatics that will kill innocent people because they feel disrespected.

Not just disrespected but because they were opressed, their family killed and their property stolen, but I have that problem too. But that is not primitive behavior. The kamakhazi bombers of Japan i think were some modern day suiciders. And her accusation of Islam as primitive, should have been an accusation of what people who are moslems do, NOT AN ACCUSATION POINTED AT THE FAITH.

Once again, Islam is the only faith on earth that actually categorically condemns suicide...I think

QURAN
{And do not kill yourselves. Surely, Allaah is Most Merciful to you}, [Soorah an-Nisaa., Aayah 29].

HADITH
Indeed, whoever (intentionally) kills himself, then certainly he will be punished in the Fire of Hell, wherein he shall dwell forever [Bukhaaree (5778) and Muslim (109 and 110)].

Now these suicide peeps think they are self sacrificing brave peeps just as US soldiers who come out of cover sure to die, to protect an ambushed batallion, are called heroes. As we remember nelson mandela was once labelled a terrorist. i kno u kno all this.

Please show me 1 thing she said about Islam, (Not Moslems today..hey some rape, drink alcohol, etc. i can't justify moslems) that was true. A law/rule in Islamic script that isnt the best law for solving 2007 problems.

[Onyiiboy]

Originally Posted by renegade

Not just disrespected but because they were opressed, their family killed and their property stolen, but I have that problem too. But that is not primitive behavior. The kamakhazi bombers of Japan i think were some modern day suiciders. And her accusation of Islam as primitive, should have been an accusation of what people who are moslems do, NOT AN ACCUSATION POINTED AT THE FAITH.

Once again, Islam is the only faith on earth that actually categorically condemns suicide...I think

QURAN
{And do not kill yourselves. Surely, Allaah is Most Merciful to you}, [Soorah an-Nisaa., Aayah 29].

HADITH
Indeed, whoever (intentionally) kills himself, then certainly he will be punished in the Fire of Hell, wherein he shall dwell forever [Bukhaaree (5778) and Muslim (109 and 110)].

Now these suicide peeps think they are self sacrificing brave peeps just as US soldiers who come out of cover sure to die, to protect an ambushed batallion, are called heroes. As we remember nelson mandela was once labelled a terrorist. i kno u kno all this.

Please show me 1 thing she said about Islam, (Not Moslems today..hey some rape, drink alcohol, etc. i can't justify moslems) that was true. A law/rule in Islamic script that isnt the best law for solving 2007 problems.

Now wait a minute, I never said anything about oppressed people fighting back. I am speaking of instances like the riots and killings that occurred after the Prophet Mohammad cartons or the Miss World pageant. How can you defend that?

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Originally Posted by Onyiiboy

Now wait a minute, I never said anything about oppressed people fighting back. I am speaking of instances like the riots and killings that occurred after the Prophet Mohammad cartons or the Miss World pageant. How can you defend that?

The riots, Yes. The killings NO!

[Onyiiboy]

Originally Posted by renegade

The riots, Yes. The killings NO!

I can understand the protests...but riots? Those were going to lead to deaths...

[renegade]

There's a thin line between Protests and Riots. We talking people here, poor, frustrated, really mad at other issues like their US puppet govt(Pakistanis and Afghans) youths etc.



But u right, should have stopped at protests, and their government should have supported their people by quickly enforcing produce boycotts, to pacify their citizens. That said, in protests of that magnitude a record few people died overall. Maybe 100 in all the countries combined. Even footbal games leave more dead sometimes.

[Onyiiboy]

Originally Posted by renegade

There's a thin line between Protests and Riots. We talking people here, poor, frustrated, really mad at other issues like their US puppet govt(Pakistanis and Afghans) youths etc.



But u right, should have stopped at protests, and their government should have supported their people by quickly enforcing produce boycotts, to pacify their citizens. That said, in protests of that magnitude a record few people died overall. Maybe 100 in all the countries combined. Even footbal games leave more dead sometimes.

The thing is bro, these were not simply isolated instances...there have been plenty more like them in the past, and it is bound to happen again in the near future.