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Old 04-25-2007, 10:27 PM   #136 (permalink)
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:29 PM   #138 (permalink)
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:31 PM   #139 (permalink)
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well, why arnt dey an ethnic group? and why r some of dem callin theirsefs igbos? dats the ?tion i want ANSWERED!!!!!
They (Arinze's ppl) are an ethnic group and they do not go around calling themselves Igbos. However, people like you call them Delta Igbos.

The so-called Delta Igbo isn't one large group of people all residing in one area. They are dispersed around Delta State and people call them Delta-Igbo based on their language. However, they aren't all from the same ethnic group.
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allow people to pick what they want nah...but from my understanding though..

Delta state is a mix of various tribes such as igbos of asaba, ibuzo, ogwashiuku, isele uku, umunede, etc. but the truth is that among these areas they have different dialects that is built around igbo language. in the same delta, u have tribes such as urhobo, kwale, itshekiri, isoko, ijaw, etc. who do not speak igbo language. however, when the religious riots break out in northern nigeria, they got slaugthered as igbos too!

when it comes to securing federal appointments, the delta igbos of asaba etc will not want to be called igbos because it limits their own opportunities.
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They (Arinze's ppl) are an ethnic group and they do not go around calling themselves Igbos. However, people like you call them Delta Igbos.

The so-called Delta Igbo isn't one large group of people all residing in one area. They are dispersed around Delta State and people call them Delta-Igbo based on their language. However, they aren't all from the same ethnic group.
did i n ot ask u to stop using Arinze as a sample?



and plz, there is no such ethnic group as Ndokwa or Ukwani! its jes a village!


but ofcos dey are dispersesd in Delta becos dey ARE NIT JUST DELTANS. dey r Delta igbos phantom. they r Igbos leaving in delta phantom. which is not my bizness.


and ofcos Delta pple arnt ALL from same ethnic group. its like sayin Lagos ple r ALL Yorubas. lagos is not really a Yoruba land either.
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Old 04-25-2007, 10:39 PM   #142 (permalink)
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Ndokwa used the be the sole local govt for all Ukwuani people. Now we have LGA such as: Ndokwa east, Ndokwa West, Ukwuani :LGAs, the people of this area as all still referred to as Ndokwa people.

Ukwuani and Kwale are often used interchangeably. For example I can say something like:

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I met a Kwale person on the bus -> He spoke frequent Kwale.

I think Ukwuani is the preferred term though, especially when referring to the Language.
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Ndokwa = LGA, Ukwuani = Language, Kwale = people?

Why can't you be creative like Isokos and be:
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allow people to pick what they want nah...but from my understanding though..

Delta state is a mix of various tribes such as igbos of asaba, ibuzo, ogwashiuku, isele uku, umunede, etc. but the truth is that among these areas they have different dialects that is built around igbo language. in the same delta, u have tribes such as urhobo, kwale, itshekiri, isoko, ijaw, etc. who do not speak igbo language. however, when the religious riots break out in northern nigeria, they got slaugthered as igbos too!

when it comes to securing federal appointments, the delta igbos of asaba etc will not want to be called igbos because it limits their own opportunities.
ok. dats one valid reason but under economical basis sha.


again, noone is forcing dem to be igbos naw. i jes wanna understand this confusion!
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Ndokwa used the be the sole local govt for all Ukwuani people. Now we have LGA such as: Ndokwa east, Ndokwa West, Ukwuani :LGAs, the people of this area as all still referred to as Ndokwa people.

Ukwuani and Kwale are often used interchangeably. For example I can say something like:

That man is an Ukwuani man -> That man speaks Ukwuani
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I think Ukwuani is the preferred term though, especially when referring to the Language.
confused soul like like we dont have Ideato LGA? u dont see us sayin we r some independent ethnic group
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ok. dats one valid reason but under economical basis sha.


again, noone is forcing dem to be igbos naw. i jes wanna understand this confusion!

the people in question are not confused.. only person confused is you.. gosh.. you're such an air head..
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anywex, i think Delta Igbo shud be declared an offcial ethnic group cos i cant even imagine the confusion some of dem r havin. dat way, this topic will never be raised again. end of stori.
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just dey remember this delta dude that said that it was not in their collective interest to be tagged igbos cos to be igbo in nigeria today is largely a liability so being called igbo is not desirable. before the war in nigeria, everyone of those groups would have signed up as igbos....
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just dey remember this delta dude that said that it was not in their collective interest to be tagged igbos cos to be igbo in nigeria today is largely a liability so being called igbo is not desirable. before the war in nigeria, everyone of those groups would have signed up as igbos....
well, its a sad ish. its jes the equivalent of being black. o well.




i dont think i wud wanna date a delta igbo dat doesnt wanna be seen as an igbo tho. am jes sayin.
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confused soul like like we dont have Ideato LGA? u dont see us sayin we r some independent ethnic group

Thanks for the explanation, AriChenna.

Now, as for you Wendy, it looks like you do not understand the concept of big and small. Stop comparing Igbo people to other smaller ethnic groups. There are millions of you so the ethnic group encompasses not just numerous LGAs but numerous states as you well know.

For some of us other smaller groups, our entire ethnic group is restricted to our LGA. Isoko used to be just one LGA but now were are two... still we are the same people. Still the same ethnic group.

Adachi, don't make assumptions that everyone of them would have considered themselves Igbo b4 the war.
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