ARABIC: A LANG OF SLAVERY?

[Shylaw]

Muslims et al....so i was having a convo with a sufi friend and he thot the arabic lang has enslaved muslims.His argument was that it makes it wayy harder for yonger and newer muslims to understand the religion,salat and its general practices.For eg when someone is praying for you in arabic,you prolly dont know what they are saying.Also, he argued that xtians afterall, dont use hebrew,the original lang the bible was written in in today;s practices.Doesnt God understand every lang afterall?I mean dude almost said it to the point that we start performing salat in yoruba
My counterargument was that if anyone really wanted to learn islam, they could at least learn the quran.there is NEVER any variation to the arabic quran,although english interpreters may read it differently.Islam's roots are based in arabic tradition,how does one go on hajj and start praying in yoruba or igbo,,without knowing some arabic,at least. but then, i may be biased so what do yall think,muslims and non muslims welcome.

[anddar]

Well, I'm not a muslim, but I think it can be disadvantageous. If you can't understand/ read the language the Quran is written in, it's like Catholics using Latin during mass. And the majority of the world's muslims are not even Arabs, apparently....so why not translate the quran and have services in local languages?

[Onyiiboy]

Its good to know the language that your scriptures were written in. If more Christians knew at least a little Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek then they wouldn't have such bizarre interpretations of their book. The mistranslations that I have seen of the words of the Christ really disturb me.

[Shylaw]

Originally Posted by Onyiiboy

Its good to know the language that your scriptures were written in. If more Christians knew at least a little Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek then they wouldn't have such bizarre interpretations of their book. The mistranslations that I have seen of the words of the Christ really disturb me.

my point exactly.

[superego]

Originally Posted by Onyiiboy

Its good to know the language that your scriptures were written in. If more Christians knew at least a little Hebrew, Aramaic and Greek then they wouldn't have such bizarre interpretations of their book. The mistranslations that I have seen of the words of the Christ really disturb me.

Beautiful.

Plus.
reasons for Arabic include-

1. The Quran is not actually the Quran if not read in Arabic, and we must always read the Quran. the English is an interpretation of many other possibilities in each verse, so the power is just not the same when read in English, and God says we must read the Quran(Arabic real thing) every time.

2. Reading the Quran is both educational and spiritual, so the english is educational, but the Arabic is spiritual..more spiritual by leaps.

3. Arabic is a divine lang. It is red right to left. Islam claims that Arabic was made as a special language in preparation for the last Book.

4. Arabic books also open right side up, and read to the left cover.

5. Arabic allows for easier memorising of chapters, Quran is the most memorized book in entirety in the history of the world, this is because of the special qualities of the chapters In Arabic.

6. Even the formations of a moslems prayer, his facial features, his palm are all arabic inscriptions and words very easy to see. Arabic is the language of creation.

7. Names are different in english than arabic, for instance, do u really believe that 'Eve', was called Eve= If by God? Doesnt sound right. Eve/If is a translation of her name. Her real name is the Arabic- Hawa. 'V' is a new letter. Another, Jesus for instance, his name has been spoiled/changed, with the 'J' added recently, 500years ago when the Normans conquered the Saxons, so we loose all true names etc, as others have if we leave the arabic.

[Onyiiboy]

Originally Posted by superego

Beautiful.

Plus.
reasons for Arabic include-

1. The Quran is not actually the Quran if not read in Arabic, and we must always read the Quran. the English is an interpretation of many other possibilities in each verse, so the power is just not the same when read in English, and God says we must read the Quran(Arabic real thing) every time.

2. Reading the Quran is both educational and spiritual, so the english is educational, but the Arabic is spiritual..more spiritual by leaps.

3. Arabic is a divine lang. It is red right to left. Islam claims that Arabic was made as a special language in preparation for the last Book.

4. Arabic books also open right side up, and read to the left cover.

5. Arabic allows for easier memorising of chapters, Quran is the most memorized book in entirety in the history of the world, this is because of the special qualities of the chapters In Arabic.

6. Even the formations of a moslems prayer, his facial features, his palm are all arabic inscriptions and words very easy to see. Arabic is the language of creation.

7. Names are different in english than arabic, for instance, do u really believe that 'Eve', was called Eve= If by God? Doesnt sound right. Eve/If is a translation of her name. Her real name is the Arabic- Hawa. 'V' is a new letter. Another, Jesus for instance, his name has been spoiled/changed, with the 'J' added recently, 500years ago when the Normans conquered the Saxons, so we loose all true names etc, as others have if we leave the arabic.

You its funny, allegedly the book of Enoch claims that Hebrew is actually the language spoken by folks in Heaven. And you def right about the name Jesus, do you know that its a combination of Jupiter and Zeus? There is no equivalent for Jesus in Hebrew.

[minglemoon]

kool

[Cleopatra]

And so i take it that Allah has a special preference for Arabic language that is ?? Isn't that a form of segregation ??

A old aged english man decided to go muslim would have to be forced to learn arabic in his old age (which is no small conquest) in order to fully understand the religion and prayers ??

[Cleopatra]

Originally Posted by superego

Beautiful.

Plus.
reasons for Arabic include-

1. The Quran is not actually the Quran if not read in Arabic, and we must always read the Quran. the English is an interpretation of many other possibilities in each verse, so the power is just not the same when read in English, and God says we must read the Quran(Arabic real thing) every time.

2. Reading the Quran is both educational and spiritual, so the english is educational, but the Arabic is spiritual..more spiritual by leaps.

3. Arabic is a divine lang. It is red right to left. Islam claims that Arabic was made as a special language in preparation for the last Book.

4. Arabic books also open right side up, and read to the left cover.

5. Arabic allows for easier memorising of chapters, Quran is the most memorized book in entirety in the history of the world, this is because of the special qualities of the chapters In Arabic.

6. Even the formations of a moslems prayer, his facial features, his palm are all arabic inscriptions and words very easy to see. Arabic is the language of creation.

7. Names are different in english than arabic, for instance, do u really believe that 'Eve', was called Eve= If by God? Doesnt sound right. Eve/If is a translation of her name. Her real name is the Arabic- Hawa. 'V' is a new letter. Another, Jesus for instance, his name has been spoiled/changed, with the 'J' added recently, 500years ago when the Normans conquered the Saxons, so we loose all true names etc, as others have if we leave the arabic.

........ but Moses in the Quran is referred to as "Musa", Adam as "Adamu" and Isaac as "Ishaya", all culled from the original names isn't it?

[superego]

Originally Posted by Onyiiboy

You its funny, allegedly the book of Enoch claims that Hebrew is actually the language spoken by folks in Heaven. And you def right about the name Jesus, do you know that its a combination of Jupiter and Zeus? There is no equivalent for Jesus in Hebrew.

Well, Hebrew and Arabic are both divine sister languages, and languages of two brothers, Isaac and Ishmael so could be one of or both of both.

Wow, I didnt kno how bad Je-Zeus was. It's unfair what the enemies of God do to our faith(s)... for the un-questing un-asking man.But I guess we must seek knowledge, theres no excuse for ignorance. Thanks for that piece.

[superego]

Originally Posted by Cleopatra

And so i take it that Allah has a special preference for Arabic language that is ?? Isn't that a form of segregation ??

A old aged english man decided to go muslim would have to be forced to learn arabic in his old age (which is no small conquest) in order to fully understand the religion and prayers ??

Cleo

1. Arabs arent better moslems. It's not as though if one cant speak Arabic u arent faithful or as good a moslem. It's just the prefered code to save the word of God from being divided and lost forever in unending, biased and situational translations as we see with the sometimes totally different and even opposite translations of other books, like the Bible. Type up 1 John 5:7, and just see how many different things come up for it in Bible search engines.

2. Moses is almost the same= Moosa, Adam is Adam. Arabic has its definite sylables and conotations. Adam has three letters- A,D,M we may add the aa' twist at the end or not, that doesnt make a difference. i think Adamu is Yoruba.

3. Gods forgotten name in Hebrew is Elli/Eloi/Elah/Elohim, pronounced Elah which is the same in Arabic= Allah, which is actually the source of the name in hebrew. Christians largely have forgotten his name/dont notice/know it, while Jews still pronounce it the same as Moslems do.

Scroll down in this Bible encyclopedia to 'Absolute or personal names in Old testament

Press play in this bible lexicon to hear it pronounced

See picture of older Bibles with it still written that way in reference

So when we loose Arabic too, we stand to lose true names and true teachings.

[superego]

Issac is Ishaac. This is no big difference, though the Arab is possibly the authentic name as is with Jesus, Hawa(Eve) etc. Bethleham= Baitlham

[Haleemah]

lol @ that Jupiter and Zeus theory ..... if only you ppl knew as much as you "thought" you knew

[Onyiiboy]

Originally Posted by Jem

lol @ that Jupiter and Zeus theory ..... if only you ppl knew as much as you "thought" you knew

Its ironic that you're attacking my knowledge when you yourself dont' know anything about your own religion. Jesus is not a Hebrew word. Its not Aramaic either. If you had knowledge, you would know that the name of the man that you call Jesus was actually named Yeshua, which tranlates to Joshua...NOT Jesus. And He wasn't called Christ when he was alive either. The name Christ comes from an Egyptian god called Serapis Christus. Google that too and refrain from speaking about things that you don't know about.

[superego]

Originally Posted by Onyiiboy

Its ironic that you're attacking my knowledge when you yourself dont' know anything about your own religion. Jesus is not a Hebrew word. Its not Aramaic either. If you had knowledge, you would know that the name of the man that you call Jesus was actually named Yeshua, which tranlates to Joshua...NOT Jesus. And He wasn't called Christ when he was alive either. The name Christ comes from an Egyptian god called Serapis Christus. Google that too and refrain from speaking about things that you don't know about.

Ignorance is a warmer more comforting shroud than knowledge to the.....ignorant

I know it's Yeshua..in Arabic= EYeisa/Eeisa, but ur translating it with the 'J' for 'Y', still plays in the modernification and corruption of His special name, though I get ur point.

Wow I am stunned by the degree of ur research...Serapis Christus...


@Jem. Why dont u share some information with references.